tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7380804.post112001382639252562..comments2023-09-19T19:45:50.854+12:00Comments on Spanblather: imagineSpanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16896745511007816190noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7380804.post-1122780030798267532005-07-31T15:20:00.000+12:002005-07-31T15:20:00.000+12:00so by your definition of mainstream pq it must be ...so by your definition of mainstream pq it must be women, who are straight, and white, who earn under $60,000 a year. not exactly National's core vote...Spanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16896745511007816190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7380804.post-1122541391196412202005-07-28T21:03:00.000+12:002005-07-28T21:03:00.000+12:00it's not really the minority label that causes off...it's not really the minority label that causes offence, it's the exclusion from the "mainstream". there are gay (and jewish) people in all walks of life, with all kinds of lifestyles - the only thing they have in common is that their sexuality (or religion) and is that really enough to cast them out of the mainstream, with all the perjorative (sp?) meanings that go with that?Spanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16896745511007816190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7380804.post-1122423550863093202005-07-27T12:19:00.000+12:002005-07-27T12:19:00.000+12:00I think minority has taken on a bad image.Minority...I think minority has taken on a bad image.<BR/><BR/>Minority is less than majority. Therefore I don't actually see what is wrong with what Brash said.Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16553956421702519382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7380804.post-1122371380427489022005-07-26T21:49:00.000+12:002005-07-26T21:49:00.000+12:00glad you wombled along pq, i was beginning to thin...glad you wombled along pq, i was beginning to think the right had conveniently overlooked my post (beyond Nigel's wrong end of the stick comment). which word are you referring to? or is it The Word? explanations of quizzical comments are always welcome :-)Spanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16896745511007816190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7380804.post-1122285050909651242005-07-25T21:50:00.000+12:002005-07-25T21:50:00.000+12:00If Donny Boy is representative of mainstream Aotea...If Donny Boy is representative of mainstream Aotearoa (and sadly, I think he probably is), then I'm glad that I'm so far out of the mainstream.Asherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782227406470450089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7380804.post-1122280082207053982005-07-25T20:28:00.000+12:002005-07-25T20:28:00.000+12:00Well, he's worse than that I think. Actually in hi...Well, he's worse than that I think. Actually in his heart of hearts, I suspect that Brash is pretty tolerant of homosexuality - certainly this fits with many other public statements he has made, and his classical liberal beliefs.<BR/><BR/>The real disgrace then is that in spite of this, he chooses to marginalise homosexuals (and indeed anyone else who is a bit different) for crude political advantage. That is as cynical as you can get.Michael Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03238158356210379837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7380804.post-1122242168060927572005-07-25T09:56:00.000+12:002005-07-25T09:56:00.000+12:00you are missing the point Nigel, it's not actually...you are missing the point Nigel, it's not actually about civil unions, it's about attacking a group of people and casting them out from the mainstream. You can't do it to Jews (and nor should you be able to) but apparently you can do it to gays with impunity?Spanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16896745511007816190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7380804.post-1122241496870092772005-07-25T09:44:00.000+12:002005-07-25T09:44:00.000+12:00If gay-straight is equivalent to jew-gentile then ...If gay-straight is equivalent to jew-gentile then anyone who doesn't support same-sex marriage is the moral equivalent of an anti-semite. <BR/><BR/>Everyone who supported civil unions but not marriage is caught by your example. That includes Labour, not just Brash.Nigel Kearneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04810873665345046994noreply@blogger.com