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Friday, January 13, 2006

blogging today on Nat Rad

Heard just before the 8am news that there will be a panel discussion on blogging on National Radio today sometime during Summer Report (i.e. before 10am).

The snippet they played was Gordon Campbell or Mclaughlan (I always get them confused) talking about how things can get very nasty in the blogosphere very quickly.

Sorry I can't be more precise about the time, does anyone else have a better idea?

Also, in Nat Rad related items this morning, DPF has the news that Linda Clark is leaving Nine to Noon.

Update, 8.38am, 13/01/06: Ok it’s on now. Keith Ng of Public Address appears to be the only actual blogger, and the panel is all male (and I think all journalists, who of course aren’t that keen on blogs in general!). If they are archiving everything from Summer Report it should be available here quite soon.

Update, 12.18pm, 15/01/06: DPF's post on this has also created some interesting discussion, as has No Right Turn's Throwing rotten fruit at the blogosphere.

13 comments:

noizy said...

you might also want to check out the panel discussion of bloggers (me, Dub dot Dash and Secret Passage) talking about the internet trends of 2005 on National Radio's 3D Radio show here.

Mellie said...

I think it was Finlay McDonald but someone put their finger on it:

"...the debate can get shrill and petty and puerile and really uninformative very quickly and people run to their partisan corners and just basically start throwing rotten fruit and vegetables..."

I could hear the venom from the journo but it is compellingly apt.

Anonymous said...

Journalists and blogs are like travel agents and online booking...

They hate 'em for the same reasons by and large.

span said...

yes i can confirm that my original assertion that the quote about nastiness was neither of the Gordon's named in my original post - i think you are right Mellie and it was part of Finlay's riff about rotten vegetables.

someone should start a blog called "Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables" (ripping off that classic Dead Kennedys album name of course, but aren't blogs all about recycling old ideas?)

heres the link said...

http://www.radionz.co.nz/nr/programmes/summerreport

edt said...

Interesting radio item this morning, but a bit disappointing as well.98% of the blogs I enjoy reading go nowhere NEAR politics, and did they address with balance that area of the blogging world? in a word NO. The last interviewee touched on it briefly at the very end of the item... this story needs a followup :)

Idiot/Savant said...

Anon: Oh yes. Because clearly we're going to provide serious competition to and eventually replace journalists, what with our impressive dedication to fact-checking, deep analysis, and political impartiality and all.

Sorry, but the endless wanking along those lines gets to me sometimes. So there's some rotten fruit for them here.

span said...

actually i agree with you I/S, we are not journalists at all and will never replace them. i live in a small amount of perennial fear that the big media giants will work out that bloggers (mostly) do it for free, and that somehow we might be a cost-effective way to replace journos, which would be a disaster for democracy.

Psycho Milt said...

Yes - I'm a mouthy git, not a journalist. Some might struggle to see a difference, but I don't think journos do...

Maria von Trapp said...

I generally agree, although I would say that occasionally some on the blogosphere would have more knowledge about certain subject matter than a journo. Especially when they have a passion for a particular area.

I shat on the media in one of my very first posts (on another blog), and had a journo friend not talk to me for a very long time as a result. She pointed me in the direction of her articles on the subject matter at hand and they were nothing more than rehashing of political websites and propaganda. On a lot of issues I 'mouth off' but on that I stand by my knowledge and ability to research.

The rotten fruit and vegetables call is a bloody good one. Someone should frame that.

Mellie said...

Would you believe:

I wrote a piece trashing the Herald for some bias back in 2004 (I think it was about the nurses' strike) and got a blank email from a nz herald sub-editor, who eventually, after prodding, obviously offended, asked me whether I was casting aspersions on the quality of the sub-editors. I sent back a reply (perhaps a little toned down) but I never heard a thing again.

We all know that Ana Samwise trawls the blogosphere (ie. kiwiblog.co.nz) in search of Juicy Fruit, but I'm quite certain that more than a couple Herald staffers monitor the blogs.

It's probably about time I wrote another piece crapping all over them and going on about Scoop.

DC said...

Mellie: "...more than a couple of Herald staffers monitor the blogs".

You mean Herald staffers are people too? Of course some people who work at the Herald read blogs, just as some school teachers and some lawyers, butchers, bakers etc read blogs.

I often get emails from Herald journos, SST journos, TVNZ and TV3 journos relating to something I've written. I don't know if by using the term "monitor" you're suggesting something more sinister than that?

span said...

i think sometimes we all seem to think that the only people who read what we write are other bloggers. clearly that's not the case.

Anyone can read our stuff and i guess we should assume that anyone will, which gels in nicely with Farrar's post about Deborah Coddington's column in the Herald on Sunday today about the nastiness of blog comments:
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/archives/012990.html

i note that the comments there have once again got a bit nasty (and defensive) - although not much compared to the previous post about Coddington's last column!).